What has the most go and the least show

"BadMotorScooter" (badmotorscooter) 02/26/2015 at 14:31 • Filed to: None

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Sleepers, Q-ships, Crown Vics with the police interceptor package, maybe even fox body Mustang LX 5.0s - vehicles that have more performance than their outward appearance might indicate. Walk softly and carry a big stick. These types of cars are typically built with some purpose other than going fast in mind, but somehow engineering sneaks through a mad dog powerplant. Or sometimes it is an unplanned combination of lightness, good suspension, and a good engine that yields a car that performs better than anyone expects.

From all the new vehicles available today, I nominate the Silverado or Sierra half-ton truck, with the optional LT1 derived 6.2L V8 and 4 wheel drive. Yes, it's heavy, but it has 420HP and 460ft-lbs of torque. C&D tested the 6.2 with the 6-speed auto and got 5.4 seconds 0-60. It should be even quicker with the new 8-speed auto and the 3.42 rear axle. A carefully optioned Silverado with the 6.2 might be able to beat 5 seconds 0-60. Not too bad for a truck with absolutely no performance intentions.

A close second would be the Chevy SS sedan, with a manual. But even the boring SS has some performance cues, such as dual exhaust and a little spoiler. At least the SS is marketed as a performance car.

It seems there are many more vehicles that have a lot more show than go, or if they have the go they also like to look the part. It could be said that the muscle car was born when a big engine was stuck into an otherwise pedestrian vehicle. I'd like to see more vehicles carry that theme these days.

LuczOr > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:35

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Tesla P85d.

691hp luxury electric 4 door?

Wut?

thebigbossyboss > LuczOr 02/26/2015 at 14:38

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Best part: It looks like a Chrysler Sebring.

LuczOr > LuczOr 02/26/2015 at 14:40

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I think it looks ok, but in a generic "here is a car" sort of way. It's like the best looking normal looking car.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:41

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0-60 5.8 seconds.

BadMotorScooter > LuczOr 02/26/2015 at 14:42

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True, they have surprising performance and don't look like they are as quick as they are. But from a performance perspective, Teslas should be compared with other large luxury sedans, like BMW and Merc V12 sedans. In that space, 691HP is still a lot, but not freakishly high.

BadMotorScooter > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2015 at 14:44

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I was thinking about that one as well. You wouldn't expect that from a Camry.

Firewrx234 > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:44

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The GTO with the 6.0L, what do I win?

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:45

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You know that the horsepower wars are getting out of hand when 691 is described as "not freakishly high."

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:45

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Plus it doesn't have the chrome show-off grillz.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:46

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Chevy Express with the 6.0V8 or the 6.6 Duramax. Not as much go as your example, but then it looks a lot slower as well. The 6.0 I know first hand is probably high 7's 0-60, but to be safe I would say low to mid 8's, since I didn't have a very precise method of timing. Also bear in mind: This was a 3500 15-passenger van, the diesel would have been faster, and you can get the same engines in a 2500 panel van, which is about 1200lbs lighter.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:47

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But look at how much of that power can actually be used...

In the Tesla that would be ALL of it. Immediately.

BadMotorScooter > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 02/26/2015 at 14:53

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That would be fun to find the lightest equipped diesel version and test it. TG USA should do this to find the best performing truck/van/utility vehicle that isn't built to be fast. No Cherokee SRT8s, etc...

BadMotorScooter > Firewrx234 02/26/2015 at 14:53

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But is has nostril hood scoops and a wing!

Party-vi > Firewrx234 02/26/2015 at 14:54

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It's got scoops and a spoiler - I'd call that show.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Firewrx234 02/26/2015 at 14:54

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That version isn't much of a sleeper. Thy the one with the 5.7, without the hood scoops.

nermal > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 14:59

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Can confirm, the new GM trucks are deceptively fast. I have one, althought it's only the 5.3, it does have the 3.73 gears, which make a big difference. They've programmed in "torque management", which is just a fancy traction control system. If you stomp on the accelerator, it doesn't just light up the tires like it could, but puts down just enough power so that there's no wheelspin or jarring on the drivetrain.

Good for not breaking stuff, bad for *feeling* powerful or doing burnouts.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 15:00

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I think the Impala SS was pretty subtle for its performance.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 02/26/2015 at 15:00

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Remember though, the diesel is de-tuned for van duty to just 260/525 for cooling purposes.

carcrasher88 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2015 at 15:02

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Yeah, but the SE (and the XSE on the new Camry) are the models that made to look sporty.

Now, if we were talking an LE or XLE trim model, then I'd agree.

VAConundrum > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 15:07

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This ugly thing:

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2015 at 15:07

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Wow, I didn't realize they still have that same power... I thought they updated that engine along with the Silverado. Still, the 6.0 is only 282/320. I reckon the diesel is still faster.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage 02/26/2015 at 15:08

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I love that thing. Almost bought one, actually.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 02/26/2015 at 15:10

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Yeah, agreed, for sure. That would've been sweet!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 02/26/2015 at 15:13

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I don't know if it would be. Remember, the Duramax alone weighs over 1k and the Allison with fluid is another 300.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > carcrasher88 02/26/2015 at 15:13

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I meant the Camry V6 in general. That's just the quickest pic I could find that wasn't crap quality.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2015 at 15:17

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Having seat-of-the-pants dyno'd one, it feels faster, but that could just be the low end diesel grunt talking. Then again, read my first comment again—the passenger van is 1200lb heavier than the cargo version. All I can say is I'd love to race a 6.0 against a 6.6 sometime.

Trevor Slattery, ACTOR > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/26/2015 at 15:21

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What is the Camry putting out like 275bhp or something? In a CAMRY. Crazy.

Firewrx234 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 02/26/2015 at 15:27

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I never really thought any of them really looked the part but yeah if you go back to the 5.7 then you get almost no show lol.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Trevor Slattery, ACTOR 02/26/2015 at 15:27

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268 lol, it's been this quick since 2007.

Hiroku > BadMotorScooter 02/26/2015 at 15:34

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"Uh, just another slow Volvo wagon being driven by some dentist on his way to the cliniHOLYSHITWHEREDIDITGO."

Slower than a Camry nowadays but deceptively quick back in its day, specially in-gear once the turbo was in full swing.

mr2gud2u > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage 02/26/2015 at 18:09

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At the time folks thought the SS was pretty quick. Those 255 50 17s looked like they meant business. The real sleep is the 9C1 police package with posi.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > mr2gud2u 02/26/2015 at 20:21

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Oh, I'm sure a lot of people knew it was fast. I'm just saying that, for its performance credentials, it was pretty subtle and discreet in its looks. Sure, it has fat rear tires and a few other cues but, otherwise, it was still a Caprice.

I would have suggested the 9C1, but I didn't think a police package would count.